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Report on Stammtisch (Brexit Stress Test) in Munich, 11th March

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Brexit stress test – Are you ready for no deal?

Click to get to Top Tips and Links.

The spectre of no deal – and the threat that this poses to UK nationals in Europe – certainly concentrated minds in Munich on Monday in a city-centre Gaststätte. While a good many of the 66 attendees were already well informed about these risks, others were only just beginning to grasp the implications for them.

The British in Bavaria team wanted to tell it how it is – based also on the many different contacts with the authorities in Munich and Berlin – so that everyone could re-assess their own situation and take any action that might still be possible.

David Hole kicked off with an explanation of what no deal means for Brits in Germany, in particular the “demotion” from EU citizen to the status of a third-country national in the eyes of German immigration law. During a three-month period after March 29 (which could be extended), Brits would continue to have the right to reside and work in Germany, but during that time they would be required to apply for a residence permit (Aufenthaltstitel – sometimes translated as Residence Title). This is the new reality in a no-deal situation. David pointed out that despite emergency legislation drawn up to regulate some areas of life for Brits in Germany post no-deal-Brexit, critical aspects remain unresolved, each of them with severe implications for those affected, e.g. the EHIC and S1 scheme of healthcare provision (see below), and freedom of onward movement (i.e. no automatic right to work in any other EU27 country; Brits are 28th in the line for jobs, after applicants from other EU countries).

David re-iterated the strong recommendation that Brits who are eligible for German citizenship should urgently consider this option. EU citizenship would protect their rights. There is now a short window of opportunity (up until 29 March, if there is no deal) for Brits to apply for German citizenship, while having the right to retain their British citizenship. Applications need to be submitted at your local Einbürgerungsamt as soon as possible.

Ingrid Taylor followed with a summary of what the Munich City Foreigners´ Office (Ausländerbehörde at the Kreisverwaltungsrat / KVR) plans for registration of Brits in the city in a no-deal scenario. Basically: The KVR will send a letter to each affected resident Brit in the city (not dual citizens) by the end of March, inviting them to make an appointment with the Ausländerbehörde at the KVR to come and talk about their future residence status (see links below). Candidates need to bring with them the completed application form, and at that appointment they would be given a “Fiktionsbescheinigung” or “fictional certificate”. This is a certificate confirming the applicant´s right to live and work in Germany as before until such time as their application for a residence permit is approved. Brits who want to stay must submit an application for residence (and there are at least 6 different kinds of residence permit! – see below) during those three months. That is the current situation.

Potential problems identified are:

– What if you have to wait a long time for your appointment (over 6,000 Brits live in the city) – and therefore for your Fiktionsbescheinigung?

– What about travel, planned or impromptu, during that three-month period? Answers: see below.

Alison Jones summarised the British in Germany tips for a no deal Brexit. These are published on the BiG website – an update will be made available with latest information in the coming days. Alison then talked briefly about the significance of the vote for the Costa amendment on ring-fencing of citizens’ rights in the case of no deal and the next actions that British in Europe is taking together with the3million to encourage the Council of Ministers and the EU27 states to support ring-fencing. (See links below)

British in Bavaria
Ingrid Taylor, David Hole, Alison Jones
13 March, 2019

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British in Bavaria – Top tips + links for a no deal scenario

1. Register as a resident.

If you live in Germany and are not registered as resident, then make sure you do so before March 29th. Contact your local Einwohnermeldeamt.

2. Obtaining a residence permit

After Brexit (deal or no deal) you will need to have a residence permit (this is separate to the requirement to register your residence mentioned in point 1). The authority responsible for handling your application for a residence permit is your local Ausländerbehörde (foreigners´ office). Find out which office is responsible for you and keep track of the Brexit information on that site.

Links for the City of Munich and elsewhere in Germany.

3. Right of residence

As third-country nationals after a no-deal Brexit, UK nationals resident in Germany will need a residence permit. This must be applied for within the three months after a no deal exit (see also points 2 above and 4 below). During those three months all registered resident Brits will be able to continue living and working in Germany as before. Check out the FAQs on right of residence on the website of the Federal Ministry of the Interior (Home Office).

4. Residence permits

There are (at least) six different types of residence permit, each with different conditions and consequences. Read up on what they all are – and which you might be eligible for – on the website of the German Federal Office for Migration and Refugees (BAMF).

5. Fiktionsbescheinigung

For the first three months after a no deal Brexit, UK nationals registered as resident anywhere in Germany have a right to continue living and working here legally for – initially – three months, during which time they must apply for a residence title. This period may be extended.

Some authorities (e.g. Munich) are planning to issue a “Fiktionsbescheinigung”, or “fictitious” certificate confirming your right to live and work in Germany while your application for a residence title is being processed. In Munich the Fiktionsbescheinigung will be handed to you at your appointment. Other authorities have other procedures. But whether or not your local office issues such a certificate, your right to live and work here for the first three months continues.

6. Travelling after a no-deal Brexit

Take proof of your residence and work status in Germany with you when you travel, in case you need to show them to a border official.

These proofs could be: your “Fiktionsbescheinigung”, if you have one; copy of work contract plus current company ID; letter from HR dept. confirming current employment; copies of bills etc.

One interesting idea is to get an “erweiterte Meldebescheinigung” (extended certificate of residence) from your local Einwohnermeldeamt. This simple but official document confirms your key details on the date of issue (current and past registered address(es); passport number, DOB, etc.). It costs €5. It is a standard German document used also for other purposes. It is not a residence permit. You can obtain one from your Einwohnermeldeamt.

Always check the latest immigration regulations of any country you will be travelling to or through. That includes all EU27 countries. Be prepared to prove to officials when asked that you live and work in Germany.

If you are a dual citizen, it could be advisable to take both passports with you when travelling.

7. S1 + EHIC healthcare

As things stand at present, after a no-deal Brexit, UK nationals in Germany will no longer be entitled to the benefits of this reciprocal payment system for their medical treatment and medicines. Official information being given to hospitals and doctors in Germany is that these patients will be expected to pay directly for their care from 30 March.

If you are affected by this you should talk asap to the healthcare provider (Krankenkasse) with which you are currently registered. The option of joining the state health insurance scheme (gesetzliche Krankenversicherung) is the subject of draft emergency legislation. Private insurance is of course always an option, though likely to be expensive. You must have alternative healthcare arrangements in place by latest three months after a no deal Brexit. Failure to do so would have serious consequences.

Note: Most working people are not affected by this – if you are in a company healthcare scheme, or have private or state health insurance already, then the above does not apply to you.

8. No-deal checklist

Essential reading – updated regularly –

the British in Germany no-deal checklist.

9. The Costa Amendment on ring-fencing citizens´ rights

See the British in Germany report,

the next steps in British in Europe´s campaign for ring-fencing,

and an example of campaigning by individuals to ask EU leaders to support ring-fencing.

Disclaimer: All this information is given in good faith, but we cannot guarantee that it is complete or accurate. It is correct to the best of our knowledge at this time and given the current situation. All information is subject to change at short notice depending on further developments in London, Brussels and Berlin. It is important for everyone to stay abreast of those developments, in particular via the relevant government information sources.

Image: (c) Clive Ashbolt – British in Bavaria

Report on the Costa Amendment


Last week saw an important vote with respect to UK Citizens’ Rights and EU Citizens’ Rights in the UK in the event of No-Deal.

An amendment put forward by MP Alberta Costa, despite his action costing him his post in the Government and being initially opposed by the Government, was passed without a vote after the Government changed its position.

However the vote is not binding on the UK Government and also requires the cooperation of the EU and so the work continues.

Alberta Costa has already written to Donald Tusk, the head of the Council of Europe representing the 28 EU States, seeking a meeting to discuss the issue and needs the Council to instruct the Commission to negotiate this “mini-Deal” in the event of a No-Deal situation.

However we, in the form of British in Europe, will also be there, adding our weight to the argument. This is costly work in terms of time and travel and therefore we are asking you to support British in Europe by making a donation to them via their website. While we, as British in Germany, are also seeking support from the German Government, the work in Brussels and the UK is also vitally important.

The original reporting follows:

As reported on the British in Europe website, the Conservative MP Alberto Costa, is proposing an amendment to the motion being voted on in the House of Commons next Wednesday 27th Feb. The amendment calls for the Prime Minister to ask the EU to jointly agree *as soon as possible* to adopt the citizens’ rights part of the Withdrawal Agreement – whatever happens with Brexit.

Please follow the British in Europe link and read about this important development and write to your UK MP in support of it.

Infoabend in Berlin, 4 March

Update: Tickets for this event were all taken within a very short time and probably only shortly after we managed to advertise the event here. As the event is not arranged by BiG we are unable to obtain any more tickets and therefore suggest you add yourself to the waiting list. The Embassy will no doubt take notice of the massive demand.

 

The British Embassy Berlin and the Berlin Senate Department for Culture and Europe invites British nationals living in Germany to an opening evening and information fair on issues relating to citizens’ rights in the context of the UK’s exit from the European Union.

18:00-19:30 – Citizens’ Rights Info Fair

With info tables hosted by relevant authorities on pensions, health insurance, recognition of professional qualifications, driving licenses, residency and naturalisation, studying and Erasmus, and working in Germany after EU Exit.

19:30-21:00 – Q&A Panel with 
– Gerry Woop, State Secretary for Europe, Berlin Senate
– Robbie Bulloch, Deputy Head of Mission, British Embassy Berlin
– Jane Golding, Chair British in Europe
– Engelhard Mazanke, Berlin Foreigners Registration Office Berlin
– Prisca Merz, Regional Consular Policy Advisor, British Embassy Berlin

and moderated by 
– Prof. Gerhard Dannemann, HU Centre for British Studies

Spaces are limited – please register on Eventbrite.

Please give the name of all participants when reserving tickets, as ID will be requested on the door.

We look forward to seeing you!

If you have reserved a ticket but find yourself unable to attend, please let us know so that we can give the ticket to someone else.

For other events please see our Events Calendar.

Image by Zairon – Own work, CC0, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=12161365